Pete has much to tell us and he tells it in a comfortable articulate manner. I’ve know about his energy production system for two years but this interview gave me a great deal of new information.

Firstly, everyone asks, “How does it work?” James Robey of the Kentucky Water Fuel Museum began by telling his audience that Pete’s system is, “a tweaking of AC electricity to the point where motors that normally require large amounts of energy can run on very little power by tweaking the AC signal.” Later, Pete will say, “When you wipe out amperage, everything runs cool, there’s 100% efficiency, nothing wears out,” thus his company name, Zero-Amp Tech. Inc.

Pete then elaborated on this concept and it’s many applications. James asked if listeners can buy his technology. Pete told him about his factory, just opened this week, to produce his tabletop model at $100,000. each. That will allow the public to have the essentials of the technology and be able to replicate the concept - of course, patents rights are not included. Pete believes there are many individuals who are entrepreneurial and will want to go into business making gensets. He has a 12kW and a 65kW prototype to show the possibilities (a 65kW is appropriate for a large home).

Pete gave the example of a man in Waco who owns numerous MacDonalds in the county, each incurring am energy bill of 4 to $6,000.00 a month. He would be able to take the technology from the demonstration model and adapt it to a generator at each of his restaurant locations. They could remain on the grid if they chose, and pay a minimum amount to their usual provider, aprox. $150.00, while saving the remainder of their previous energy bill.

With this technology, a natural extension for this business owner would be to develop a new enterprise - building and selling gensets.

At this time, it is typical for a large restaurant to incur a $10,000. to $40,000.00 monthly energy bill. Pete knows this from experience - here he used the example of a T.G.I.Fridays formerly on (I actually knew it well) Fisherman’s Wharf in San Francisco. It had to shut down when their energy bill rose from $10,000. to $40,000. a month over night. James says, “Wow.”

Writer's comment: How different things would be with Mr. Sumaruck’s energy system if in use today.

Pete also talked about how he took his technology to the U.S. Army in 2002. They wanted him to build 200 to 500 mobile “slave” 50kW generators to power ground operations in Iraq. At that time, each one of their 25kW generators was using 57 gallons of diesel a day. With Pete’s system, a 50kW genset would use only 6 gallons of gas (not diesel) over a 16 month period, no more. The cost for diesel would have been eliminated. After one and a half years of Army delays (in obtaining easy-to-get parts) and a perfect prototype later, the project was shelved by a Texas State Representative and a Texas U.S. Congressman.

Also at that time, Pete developed an application of his invention to apply to 18wheel trucks for the government, trucks that could go from Los Angeles to Florida and back on 6 gallons (the magic number). Plus, Pete’s power units never produce emissions, so no pollution. The government soundly defeated his concept with even more vehemence than they did with the generators. I knew about the Army project shutdown but didn’t know it was that far back when Pete developed his tech application for trucks - this category would include any large vehicle i.e. construction equipment, earthmovers, supply and personnel transport, etc…

What happened to that Army prototype? Pete got word that the project was going to be shelved. That night, he zeroed out the computer in the unit - it still belonged to him; the government never paid him for his technology, only a salary to build it. Just in time - individuals broke into the locked facility, destroyed everything and removed most of the remains. See pictures at on this website.

James and Pete discussed how the government at that time was in the mammoth supply business - buying fuel for all government projects. Pete's cost savings were not well-received; Halliburton was pulling in too much profit.

Writer's comment: things have not changed, unfortunately. If Pete Sumaruck’s technology had been implemented in 2004, many lives would have been saved in Iraq by not using flammable/combustible fuel. Also, James brought up the subject of more than half of the U.S. budget now going to the military, and 60% of that for fuel. Fuel costs are impossible to accurately compute because they are included in various categories under different titles. See useconomy.about.com for the amount of Defense Department budget for Fiscal 2010 of $663.7 billion to include the supplemental requests for Iraq and Afghanistan.

Writer’s comment: I have a article coming soon on the energy situation in Afghanistan.

The interview did not discuss how Pete is frequently asked to use his technology for weapons. He always emphatically refused. He had served in Vietnam, and later, a Navy Seal; he knew he had seen enough death in battle.

Playing “What-if”…from 2004 how different life would be now. There would never have been the fuel skyrocket of a year ago 2008, and no recession/depression of 2008/2009. Can we blame the Bush Administration for this? Yes, of course, why not.

In the interview James brings up how a “certain extremely wealthy man” commissioned Mr. Sumaruck to build a large generator to power his private island. They did not mention the man’s name but it was Ross Perot. Note the article by Leslie Pastor in PESwiki telling more about the Ross Perot incident.

James and Pete discuss the two court cases where Mr. Perot attempted to sue Pete for his technology. This took place in the 90’s; Pete was asked to build the generator, which he did, but Mr. Perot refused to pay him per their agreement, and continued to sue him for the compete technology, patents and designs. I did not know about those two court cases but I did know that when Pete went to the hospital for an operation, Mr. Perot sent in his attorneys to attempt to get him to change his will to show Mr. Perot as beneficiary of the Sumaruck technology - presumably a deathbed will revision. Pete had these men summarily thrown out and lived to tell about it.

Throughout the interview, James made comments and asked excellent questions. Pete answered, not with simple “yes,” and “no” but with elaborations and new thoughts.

Pete spoke of some of the people he has met along the way in his 20 years of pursuing the dream - a good topic for a future article.

James asked Pete how he came to first build his small tabletop display model. They allude to a company that agreed last December to buy Pete’s company, Zero-Amp Tech. Inc. thus promising to go into production of gensets as well as other applications they would license out. It was agree that Pete would build a prototype; he suggested a 12kW unit, purchased all the components even to include a still larger unit of 65kW, but they insisted on something that could fit in the owner’s (Dr. Steve Greer) private plane. And they stipulated that Pete incorporate a battery into the unit. When the prototype was complete March 9, these people did not express a desire to come to see their technology. What they did was delay and delay, past various deadlines, until the contractual agreement became null and void. These people had given him a signing bonus and he had fulfilled his part of the bargain in building the requested prototype. Now they were AWOL.

In the interview, Pete again used the analogy of a restaurant - he agrees to wire a new restaurant. Everything is in place, he comes to turn it on. The owners are pleased, “fine,” they say, “but I don’t want you to turn it on.” “But it’s ready to go, working perfectly, let’s turn it on.” “No, no…we don’t want you to turn it on.” “But it’s been ready for a while now, ready to use.” “No, no, don’t turn it on, go away.”

They go back and forth on why this group was so aggressively enthusiastic in the beginning, then nothing. Pete says, "they did nothing to help me (no support system, no business structure, he even had to buy his own supplies and components); they just drug it out on and on."

It is the author’s belief that “delay” was the primary tactic. If they wanted to stop Pete’s progress, they used delay and criticism…did they actually think they could stop him? They didn’t know how tenacious Pete Sumaruck is.

James was incredulous, “These people professed to be supporters of the new energy/free energy movement?” “Yes, they did.” “Do you suppose they are part of those who want to actually defeat new energy?”… Pete, “It would appear that way.” James mentioned the deep corruption in both the government and corporate America involved in energy production, “…the coal lobby is huge.” He used an example of the coal industry that provides so much of America’s power…as well as much of it’s pollution. James said he isn’t surprised they would go to any lengths to protect their interests.

Writer’s comment: I draw your attention to the OP-ED article of 6/29/09 in The New York Times - “The Dirty War Against Clean Coal." The author, Greg Easterbrook, believes obfuscation of the coal issue will pacify the Green complainers. Plus, he says the “new” style tech called “integrated gasification combined cycle” reduces greenhouse gases by a third. Let me remind you that Pete Sumaruck’s energy production system leaves no emissions - no greenhouse gases at all, and no detritus in water or earth.

"It’s not to their economic advantage to give the regular citizens a break." Greed is rampant in America. James, “corruption runs so deep.”  Pete, “Somebody’s got to do something; that‘s why I am doing this.” James, “I think that’s a fine thing. If you can be the catalyst, get things going, moving ahead.”

Pete told James that contrary to the impression of the military-industrial complex being completely against new energy, he championed those in the military he met in his year and a half at Fort Hood. They were all patriotic (unfortunately that word now has a negative connotation) Americans, honest people he could trust, who wanted the best for their soldiers. Though this was not the case with the politicians involved.

Mr. Sumaruck has never favored the use of a battery in any of his units - doesn't like them, doesn't need them - but the group commissioning the prototype this year insisted he do so. Other requisites were that the unit display “overunity” (more power coming out than going in) and would be “closed looped” (running indefinitely), thus defeating the Law of Thermodynamics.

They wanted a display unit to show to future manufactures, so Pete decided that this would be a good way to start the ball rolling into the production marketplace - his small factory will be the catalyst for others to go into production; it was a logical next step. He told the radio audience he will make only 55 of these units. Pete Sumaruck believes the entrepreneurial spirit is moving ahead, maybe hibernating but very much alive. People who see the future will want to participate in it. They won’t be afraid to change the world.

for further information, contact Charlotte Wilson at: technoadvancedworldview@hotmail.com   or the inventor at: petesumaruck@yahoo.com

Listen to James Robey's Volume 1 (first interview) of Mr. Sumaruck from Nov. 22, 2008 at: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/WaterFuelMuseum/2008/11/22/Pete